Wine with all its cultural and social benefits not to mention taste experiences is most certainly not just “alcohol”. It is probably the most civilising influence the world has known. The challenge it faces today is messaging this in the face of many who have other agendas including the WHO funded by neo prohibitionists. Shame on them!
I am fully on board that Wine is a cultural and gastronomic pleasure, and that denigrating it in comparison to a completely different different product is ridiculous. But I will say that there is more to cannabis than getting “fucked up”. Some of the components of cannabis are very helpful for pain and anxiety, some do not even cause euphoria.
This confrontational attitude that you are pointing out does nothing to make me want to consume more cannabis nor less wine! Nobody better try to take my wine away from me! It is one of my greatest pleasures in life! And I use cannabis, when legal, mostly for pain and anxiety management.
Oh no you didn’t ! This argument is fully silly. Are the elites who drink wine actually threatened by marijauna ? Are they defensive because that 50 dolllar bag of grass should have been a Jordan Cabernet ? There is so much big money tied up in grapes that everyone should just relax. No one is going broke. Your share of the alcohol industry has taken a bit of a hit of late ( no pun intended ) but I suspect large corporation multiple alcohol alternatives are more to blame.
I agree "dengration [sic] marketing" is a shameless way to get what they want, but implying weed is only for "getting fucked up" is wildly out of touch and it detracts from your argument.
Weed has no cultural history? C'mon, you don't think it's been regarded as spiritual in many non-western cultures?
Nobody smokes weed at weddings? I know of a friend who had a weed-only wedding last year.
Weed only enhances dorito-flavor? You've never been comfortably high at a gourmet restaurant and it shows.
Don't fight at their level. Wine is great. Weed is great. Loosen your tie.
Thomas Jefferson said it well. “No nation is drunken where wine is cheap; and none sober, where the dearness of wine substitutes ardent spirits as the common beverage. It is, in truth, the only antidote to the bane of whiskey.”
Wine is being challenged because of the "risk" of drinking alcoholic beverages. Those who smoke cannabis also face risk, the measure of which we know less about. I'm familiar with both and have enjoyed them. What bothers me about the arguments made against both is that these are "risks" that are no greater than many other risks we all face, often on a daily basis. Driving your car is a much bigger risk than enjoying wine or cannabis. Who doesn't enjoy sunshine, yet there is risk. It is a false equivalency to try to denigrate one in favor of the other. Of course, your "tool" stands to make a lot of money. Perhaps that seems like a good excuse to her.
Wine with all its cultural and social benefits not to mention taste experiences is most certainly not just “alcohol”. It is probably the most civilising influence the world has known. The challenge it faces today is messaging this in the face of many who have other agendas including the WHO funded by neo prohibitionists. Shame on them!
Well said, as usual, Tom. The line "Cannabis is a gateway to Dorritos" goes down as the line of the day.
I am fully on board that Wine is a cultural and gastronomic pleasure, and that denigrating it in comparison to a completely different different product is ridiculous. But I will say that there is more to cannabis than getting “fucked up”. Some of the components of cannabis are very helpful for pain and anxiety, some do not even cause euphoria.
This confrontational attitude that you are pointing out does nothing to make me want to consume more cannabis nor less wine! Nobody better try to take my wine away from me! It is one of my greatest pleasures in life! And I use cannabis, when legal, mostly for pain and anxiety management.
Oh no you didn’t ! This argument is fully silly. Are the elites who drink wine actually threatened by marijauna ? Are they defensive because that 50 dolllar bag of grass should have been a Jordan Cabernet ? There is so much big money tied up in grapes that everyone should just relax. No one is going broke. Your share of the alcohol industry has taken a bit of a hit of late ( no pun intended ) but I suspect large corporation multiple alcohol alternatives are more to blame.
Have a toke and chill out.
I agree "dengration [sic] marketing" is a shameless way to get what they want, but implying weed is only for "getting fucked up" is wildly out of touch and it detracts from your argument.
Weed has no cultural history? C'mon, you don't think it's been regarded as spiritual in many non-western cultures?
Nobody smokes weed at weddings? I know of a friend who had a weed-only wedding last year.
Weed only enhances dorito-flavor? You've never been comfortably high at a gourmet restaurant and it shows.
Don't fight at their level. Wine is great. Weed is great. Loosen your tie.
Thomas Jefferson said it well. “No nation is drunken where wine is cheap; and none sober, where the dearness of wine substitutes ardent spirits as the common beverage. It is, in truth, the only antidote to the bane of whiskey.”
Wine is being challenged because of the "risk" of drinking alcoholic beverages. Those who smoke cannabis also face risk, the measure of which we know less about. I'm familiar with both and have enjoyed them. What bothers me about the arguments made against both is that these are "risks" that are no greater than many other risks we all face, often on a daily basis. Driving your car is a much bigger risk than enjoying wine or cannabis. Who doesn't enjoy sunshine, yet there is risk. It is a false equivalency to try to denigrate one in favor of the other. Of course, your "tool" stands to make a lot of money. Perhaps that seems like a good excuse to her.