What is also damaging is Grocery Outlet. I suspect they get government subsidies allowing them to sell wine at outrageously low prices that smaller businesses can't compete with.
This country has seen 100% unregulated and the dangers that can bring iwith alcohol and the beinfet of udnerstnding that 100% Prohibition, only hands over a massive cash cow that helped entrench orgainzed crime in the U.S. while turning millioins of law biddign citizens into criminals for a drink. Updates are need, but what fool thinks that quanitty discounts are A) not a fundemanal basic concept in capitalism that benefits everyone, B) How did the only control state that was voted to privatiszed was fueled by a reatailer demanding QDs on Wine. The government ABC said NO, and the ABC only regulated, didnt' sell Wine in State Stores like Spirits. This was 2012, are people this stupid not to rememmber, that one guy, making it his last box to check before he retired, to get QDs on wine or bring down the ABC.
Am i taking crazy pills, as the State was Washington, and this could be the case of POLITICANS PROVING THEY ARE TOOLS SO STUPID THEY ARE THIS EAISLY MAINPULATED,
The retailer was a "local" homegrown Washington buisness, you know, mom and pop kind of place. Founded in Kirkland, now in Issaquah......the CEO was James Sinegal....just a few employees nationally, 333,0000, and revenue the size of a large countgry, $242mm, so again, does Quantity Discount have anyting to do with the Sucess and fundemanal concept of
FREAKING COSTCO.
But guess what, only big brands typcially sell at COSTCO, altheough they have some states where liquor section have a big variety, but we all know you go to a large store for the price, and if you shop at a convienet store, hence the name, you pay up, why, quantity discount. And why do small stores concentrate on speciality items, because they sell lower volume but higher margin.
THis is someone mainuplating a small minded Politcan, as QDs are commonsense to all consumers that drive shopping habits that most understand, if COSTCO couldn't get a break by buying a lot at one time, will prices stay low, well maybe but your membership will be MASSIVE
Alcohol is not toliet paper, as it is a great example of that "invisible" hand to guide it. A new fun brand of aclohocl hasn't come from Europe since the Mayflower, as slotting fees and tied houses and all that are not regualted and is a stale boring industry that has a lot of negative effects of those faults that the U.S. avoids (not at all claming the U.S. system is perfect!).
After Prohibition, the Feds set the "tone" or main concepts and then allowed the states to figure out the rest. Only those Federal guideline (for the most part) call out the Federal laws peratining to alcohol, like one cannot pay COSTCO to carry a poduct or to not carry a competitor, but almosmt all other Consurmer goods you can.... WIthout that, innovation dies (innvoation thrives first at small stores i wonder why) but policians often think that if the Feds didn't describe it, then it is up for tranlation by the State, and that is not true.
You cannot give local products peferatianal treamteme over those from other States, or whatnot.
It makes no sense, and the fact that COSCTCO ....sigh why bother.
You are a little off with your comments. Costco wanted to sell their Kirkland signature liquor products in the liquor stores and wslcb said no multiple times.
The state liquor store did indeed sell wines and spirits prior.
Sinegal got mad and chose to increase the membership by $5 and then at most costcos lied to the public about how much they were buying booze for In WA vs like AZ. So many factors are in play here
Net Costco ( still blows me away ) didn’t realize how much tax had been built into the mark up formula of alcohol from different sin tax legislation increases which than created the highest prices in the country
The free market doesn't always prioritize consumer interests. Sometimes, it prioritizes profits over people. And sometimes, it leads to monopolies and exploitation of vulnerable communities. Quantity discounts are not some sacred cow that must be preserved at all costs; they're a tool used by powerful companies like Costco to maintain their market dominance.
James Sinegal was not some small-time entrepreneur who revolutionized the retail industry with his genius concept of quantity discounts. He was a ruthless businessman who built a massive corporation on the backs of struggling farmers and local businesses. His success is not something to be emulated; it's something to be criticized.
The wine and spirits industry needs a modern approach that prioritizes consumers. Direct shipping, online marketplaces, and alternative distribution models can break down barriers for small retailers.
But let's not forget the harm caused by alcohol: no amount is safe. It leads to addiction, domestic violence, drunk driving... Let's also prioritize public health and safety through increased taxes, stricter marketing regulations, and education programs.
Reform the industry with consumer-first policies and protect our communities from the toxic effects of alcohol.
What is also damaging is Grocery Outlet. I suspect they get government subsidies allowing them to sell wine at outrageously low prices that smaller businesses can't compete with.
This country has seen 100% unregulated and the dangers that can bring iwith alcohol and the beinfet of udnerstnding that 100% Prohibition, only hands over a massive cash cow that helped entrench orgainzed crime in the U.S. while turning millioins of law biddign citizens into criminals for a drink. Updates are need, but what fool thinks that quanitty discounts are A) not a fundemanal basic concept in capitalism that benefits everyone, B) How did the only control state that was voted to privatiszed was fueled by a reatailer demanding QDs on Wine. The government ABC said NO, and the ABC only regulated, didnt' sell Wine in State Stores like Spirits. This was 2012, are people this stupid not to rememmber, that one guy, making it his last box to check before he retired, to get QDs on wine or bring down the ABC.
Am i taking crazy pills, as the State was Washington, and this could be the case of POLITICANS PROVING THEY ARE TOOLS SO STUPID THEY ARE THIS EAISLY MAINPULATED,
The retailer was a "local" homegrown Washington buisness, you know, mom and pop kind of place. Founded in Kirkland, now in Issaquah......the CEO was James Sinegal....just a few employees nationally, 333,0000, and revenue the size of a large countgry, $242mm, so again, does Quantity Discount have anyting to do with the Sucess and fundemanal concept of
FREAKING COSTCO.
But guess what, only big brands typcially sell at COSTCO, altheough they have some states where liquor section have a big variety, but we all know you go to a large store for the price, and if you shop at a convienet store, hence the name, you pay up, why, quantity discount. And why do small stores concentrate on speciality items, because they sell lower volume but higher margin.
THis is someone mainuplating a small minded Politcan, as QDs are commonsense to all consumers that drive shopping habits that most understand, if COSTCO couldn't get a break by buying a lot at one time, will prices stay low, well maybe but your membership will be MASSIVE
Alcohol is not toliet paper, as it is a great example of that "invisible" hand to guide it. A new fun brand of aclohocl hasn't come from Europe since the Mayflower, as slotting fees and tied houses and all that are not regualted and is a stale boring industry that has a lot of negative effects of those faults that the U.S. avoids (not at all claming the U.S. system is perfect!).
After Prohibition, the Feds set the "tone" or main concepts and then allowed the states to figure out the rest. Only those Federal guideline (for the most part) call out the Federal laws peratining to alcohol, like one cannot pay COSTCO to carry a poduct or to not carry a competitor, but almosmt all other Consurmer goods you can.... WIthout that, innovation dies (innvoation thrives first at small stores i wonder why) but policians often think that if the Feds didn't describe it, then it is up for tranlation by the State, and that is not true.
You cannot give local products peferatianal treamteme over those from other States, or whatnot.
It makes no sense, and the fact that COSCTCO ....sigh why bother.
You are a little off with your comments. Costco wanted to sell their Kirkland signature liquor products in the liquor stores and wslcb said no multiple times.
The state liquor store did indeed sell wines and spirits prior.
Sinegal got mad and chose to increase the membership by $5 and then at most costcos lied to the public about how much they were buying booze for In WA vs like AZ. So many factors are in play here
Net Costco ( still blows me away ) didn’t realize how much tax had been built into the mark up formula of alcohol from different sin tax legislation increases which than created the highest prices in the country
"Costco wanted to sell their Kirkland signature liquor products in the liquor stores and wslcb said no multiple times." I don't understand.
The free market doesn't always prioritize consumer interests. Sometimes, it prioritizes profits over people. And sometimes, it leads to monopolies and exploitation of vulnerable communities. Quantity discounts are not some sacred cow that must be preserved at all costs; they're a tool used by powerful companies like Costco to maintain their market dominance.
James Sinegal was not some small-time entrepreneur who revolutionized the retail industry with his genius concept of quantity discounts. He was a ruthless businessman who built a massive corporation on the backs of struggling farmers and local businesses. His success is not something to be emulated; it's something to be criticized.
The wine and spirits industry needs a modern approach that prioritizes consumers. Direct shipping, online marketplaces, and alternative distribution models can break down barriers for small retailers.
But let's not forget the harm caused by alcohol: no amount is safe. It leads to addiction, domestic violence, drunk driving... Let's also prioritize public health and safety through increased taxes, stricter marketing regulations, and education programs.
Reform the industry with consumer-first policies and protect our communities from the toxic effects of alcohol.